Hollywood, having done gay, moves on to incest

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Since Hollywood sets the moral climate for what’s left of western culture, it won’t be that long before incest between consenting adults is legal, those who disapprove will be labelled incestophobic bigots, and batty church denominations will be falling over themselves in the rush to be the first to offer a generous pastoral response to committed monogamous brother-sister relationships.

And why not? After all, as the director piously intones: ‘You know what? This whole movie is about judgment, and lack of it, and doing what you want.’

The last thing we want to do is judge anyone or stop them doing what they want.

From here:

The Hollywood film director behind beloved romantic drama, The Notebook, has proved himself a true champion of love by admitting he doesn’t think there is anything wrong with incest.

In an interview about his new movie, Yellow – which debuted at the Toronto Film Festival this weekend – Nick Cassavetes defended his protagonist’s affair with her brother.

The Alpha Dog director reasoned that since he had no personal experience in the matter, he didn’t believe he was in a position to condemn incest and went on to compare it to gay marriage.

 

9 thoughts on “Hollywood, having done gay, moves on to incest”

    • Indeed Kate. It is a very slippery slope that once we start our downward slide it is next to impossible to stop. Do you care to guess what will be at the bottom?

      “generous pastoral response to committed monogamous brother-sister relationships”
      David, you are not being inclusive enough. You should have also mentioned something about brother-brother and sister-sister relationships. Oh my, shame on me. I should also include parent-child relationships, but only when the child has reached the legal age of consent, which in Canada is now 16 years of age. You may recall the former MP Svend Robinson. Even 16 was too old for him and while on a House of Commons Committee introduced a motion that would have reduced the age to 14! This is well documented, and one wonders just how low would people like Svend want the age of consent reduced to. 12? 10? 8?!

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      • Actually, you have some facts wrong. The age of consent for sexual intercourse is still 14 years in Canada, one of the lowest in the western world. The only country lower than us it Britain where it is 13. There was a motion to raise it to I think 16, but that was blocked in the Senate (a conservative controlled senate) and nothing else has happened since. The age of consent at 18 in Canada is the age where one can consent to marriage (in some provinces) which is different than sexual intercourse.

        Svend Robinson DID NOT make a private member motion to reduce the age to 12 as you wrongly accuse him of doing. It was a motion to reduce the age of homosexual sex from 21 to 14. It became redundant, because the courts stepped in to reduce it with out Robinson’s motion even being debated.

        If you read the article on the website I have posted, you can find it yourself.
        http://www.realwomenca.com/page/newsljf0607.html

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        • I don’t think that is accurate either.

          The age of consent depends on the age of the other partner and various other factors; the age of consent can be as young as 12 or as old as 18.

          It is all in a Department of Justice document here. An extract:

          The age of consent for sexual activity is 16 years. It was raised from 14 years on May 1, 2008 by the Tackling Violent Crime Act.

          However, the age of consent is 18 years where the sexual activity “exploits” the young person — when it involves prostitution, pornography or occurs in a relationship of authority, trust or dependency (e.g., with a teacher, coach or babysitter). Sexual activity can also be considered exploitative based on the nature and circumstances of the relationship, e.g., the young person’s age, the age difference between the young person and their partner, how the relationship developed (quickly, secretly, or over the Internet) and how the partner may have controlled or influenced the young person.
          Are there any exceptions to this?

          The Criminal Code provides “close in age” or “peer group” exceptions.

          For example, a 14 or 15 year old can consent to sexual activity with a partner as long as the partner is less than five years older and there is no relationship of trust, authority or dependency or any other exploitation of the young person. This means that if the partner is 5 years or older than the 14 or 15 year old, any sexual activity will be considered a criminal offence unless it occurs after they are married to each other (in accordance with the “solemnization” of marriage requirements that are established in each province and territory, governing how and when a marriage can be performed, including the minimum age at which someone may marry).

          There is also a “close-in-age” exception for 12 and 13 year olds: a 12 or 13 year old can consent to sexual activity with another young person who is less than two years older and with whom there is no relationship of trust, authority or dependency or other exploitation of the young person.

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          • Did this make it past the Senate? I was under the impression that it did not and that it was sent back to the House for revisions and still sits there.

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        • The age of consent in Britain has been 16 since 1885. The most recent amendment to the age of consent (in the Sexual Offences Act (Amendment) Act 2000) increased it to 18 where one partner is in a position of trust with respect to the other.

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        • It is not me who is making the accusation. I found the information here
          http://www.theinquiry.ca/REAL_consent.hide.php.

          “Mr. Robinson then moved at that same Committee meeting, that the age of consent for buggery (anal intercourse) be lowered to 14 years of age from the then 21 years of age, on equality grounds in the Charter of Rights.”

          This was, as I correctly indicated, a motion made in committee, and not a Private Members Motion made in the House of Commons. Also, please note, that I did not say that the motion was to reduce the age to 12, but did correctly say that is was to reduce the age to 14. I than wondered how much lower Svend would be wanting to go.

          “You may recall the former MP Svend Robinson. Even 16 was too old for him and while on a House of Commons Committee introduced a motion that would have reduced the age to 14!”

          Additionally, my source for the Age of Conscent in Canada is
          http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/dept-min/clp/faq.html
          which states
          “What is Canada’s age of consent?
          The age of consent for sexual activity is 16 years. It was raised from 14 years on May 1, 2008 by the Tackling Violent Crime Act.”

          Kind regards,
          AMP

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    • Yes, indeed I do, Kate. Notice his deceit in eliding the major issue of procreativity in order to equate incest and gay marriage: “I’m not saying this is an absolute but in a way, if you’re not having kids – who gives a damn?”

      But, really, it’s using shock as a cover for banality. As Dávila said, “In the society that is starting to take shape, not even the enthusiastic collaboration of the sodomite and the lesbian can save us from boredom.”

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