Fred Hiltz wants ‘good disagreement’ in marriage canon discussions

From here:

The church should embrace a “humble humanity” and a “way of living together that is more respectful of our dignity as children of God,” Archbishop Fred Hiltz, primate of the Anglican Church of Canada, said Friday in a report to Council of General Synod (CoGS).

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Hiltz also related this ideal to his hope that the Anglican Church of Canada would practice “good disagreement” in upcoming discussions of the proposed amendment to the marriage canon to allow for same-sex marriage, which will be discussed at CoGS and then be subject to a vote during General Synod in July 2019.

I’ve had enough of faux “good disagreement” or “we are doing things our way and we don’t care if you disagree”.

At the First Council of Nicaea when Christianity was muscular, when the participants weren’t effeminate men and aggressive women, St. Nicholas punched the heretic Arius on the nose. That’s “good disagreement”.

9 thoughts on “Fred Hiltz wants ‘good disagreement’ in marriage canon discussions

  1. Good disagreement, since they have already taken churches to court and seized their properties for disagreeing. Is this what Fred means by good disagreement? If he means it then restore properties back to their rightful owners.

    • For apostates such as Fred Hiltz there is only one kind of what he calls “good disagreement” and that is accepting his apostasy without question. The ACoC under his leadership has descended into the pit and tragically has taken many of their followers with them. He no longer accept the authority of Scripture and believes his word is superior to THE WORD.

  2. I had never heard about Arius being punched in the nose. (presumably over the Arian heresy?). Which books 📚 will tell me more?
    Also thanks to paula and underground for their comments.

  3. Missing biblical words: sin, sinful, ungodly; holy, holiness, righteous, righteousness, abstain, regeneration, sanctification, obedience. Biblical “good disagreement” is noting the erring brother, and having nothing to do with him. In the early church, truth was hard, primary, and worth dividing over. Now, it’s all a mushy mess. Welcome to Oz, and the hand-waving curtain-man.

  4. There is no such thing as “good disagreement”! When people disagree about God’s Truth one, and possibly both, are WRONG. You simply cannot have it both ways. It’s like disagreeing on what a stop sign means. Does it mean come to a full stop, or is it ok to just slow down and roll through? We often do the latter even though we all KNOW it actually means the former. But the AcoC has been doing the latter so much so that it has convinced itself of its own lies.
    Enough of this! To any all devout Christians that remain in the AcoC is say this. For the sake of your eternal souls get out. Run away from these now fallen and sin filled group.

  5. As I said quite some time ago in my Brief to the Commission at https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140923072730-135532881-my-brief-to-the-anglican-church-of-canada-commission-on-the-marriage-canon/ , in answer to the question What is the difference between marriage and the blessing of a relationship? “Are you asking about the public ceremony, or something else? In any case Christ’s Church has no authority to ‘bless’ what He does not bless, and such ‘blessings’ are of none effect. It never has been a sensible let alone godly way of running a diocese or a denomination to have something ‘blessed’ in some places which is believed to be sinful in others.”

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