The Nicene Creed has it wrong. Rather than:
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven
It should say:
For us men and to rebuild our relationship with the planet
he came down from heaven
Because, you see, being reconciled with the planet is more important than being reconciled with God the Father. If you worship Gaia, that is.
From here:
Church of England’s first ever green Lent campaign launches
Launching the resources, Archbishop Justin Welby said: “We urgently need to rebuild our relationship with our planet. To do this, we need to change our habits – in how we pray and how we act.“Lent is not just about discipline. It’s about allowing Christ to show us what’s keeping us from loving and serving Him – and joyfully letting it go.
“Whatever age you are, this Lent I hope you’ll engage with God’s plea for us to care for His creation, and that these campaign resources will help you on that journey.”
Just some of the questions posed during the series are:
‘How much water goes into making a pair of jeans?’
‘Could you twin your toilet?’
‘When was the last time you gazed at the night sky?’
‘What was the carbon footprint of the meal I just ate?’
If you don’t have a relationship with the planet – I must admit, I don’t – then pull yourself together, twin your toilet, feel guilty about the carbon footprint of your dinner and google how much water was used in making your trousers. That should do it.
And bishops wonder why people are leaving the church of England.
Sorry, I see I used “men” above. I meant “members of the non-binary, gender fluid, LGBT+, androgynous community; (aka a CofE vicar).”
I had to google toilet twinning, how many gallons of water go into the pair of jeans I am wearing, and I found out that the clam chowder I ate last night has one of the smallest carbon footprints (probably because clams have such tiny feet).My log cabin observatory is probably carbon neutral because the trees I cut give room for new undergrowth. If I promise to keep the water conservationist’s oath, “If it’s yellow let it mellow. If it’s brown flush it down.” will my righteousness then exceed that of the pharisees, and will I get to enter the Kingdom of Heaven? I think not. No matter what we do, we need Jesus as our Savior for that.
Do greens stick to highway speed limits to avoid wasting gas? I mean, wouldn’t that be the very minimum in expected behaviour?
Highway speed limits have little to do with gas use. in BC, the highway speed limit is 80 kph. The most efficient speed to drive at is 90 kph, because that is a fuel consumption test speed and manufacturers tune their engines to be the most efficient at that speed.
I’m assuming posted speed limits of 90kph or higher. I know of no jurisdiction where the top highway speed is 80 kph. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/speed-limits-on-some-b-c-highways-to-hit-120-km-h-1.2694277
Sure, on rural highways and bits of the Trans-Canada, but most of the highway traffic here is on urban highways, which have limits of 60-80.
OK, what does “twinning a toilet mean” ?
I have no idea.
Why are these “church leaders” soooo damn stupid ?
It’s a British program: https://www.toilettwinning.org/
“OK, what does ‘twinning a toilet mean’ ?
I have no idea.”
Not sure I even want to know.
https://www.behindthename.com/name/gaia
From the Greek word γαια (gaia), a parallel form of γη (ge) meaning “earth”. In Greek mythology Gaia was the mother goddess who presided over the earth. She was the mate of Uranus and the mother of the Titans and the Cyclopes.
Wasn’t sure if I’d heard the name before but might’ve seemed like a kind of goddess or something turned out that’s what it is.
Well, our congregation left all this is now Anglican Church of North America & we’re doing quite well
We should respect the earth but also follow scripture
Yahweh the I Am created all & we ought to love Yahweh & Jesus of Nazareth & the Holy Spirit
Jesus came out of Yahweh in the Holy Spirit into the Virgin Mary
This is our first priorities
Thankful, give thanks for creation to the Creator
Hello David,
Just one correction to your statement. The amended creed is supposed to remove all gender bias and read
“For us people and to rebuild our relationship with the planet ze came down from heaven”
One of the best ways to make progressives froth is to believe in a literal resurrection. Then any issue of planetary calamity (the modern version of OBEY THE PREOSTS OR GO TO HELL !!! FIRE !!! OBEY OR BURN !!) can simply be dealt with via the resurrection. If we have the sure hope of the resurrection before our eyes, we should simply not care. Resurrection will solve that.
They literally froth like they’re having a seizure if you present this view to them. If you think about religions on an evolutionary scale, then they evolve sin and guilt first, then ritual forgiveness involving animals (mmm, food for preosts!), then, in Christianity, we see this whole priestly nonsense put on its head: GOD forgives you! GOD will resurrect you! He didn’t come to put you under covenants the priests put into His mouth, he came to set you free from the dominion of priests!
In Old English, Bishop is Biscop, Bi is a prefix meaning substitute/double, scop meaning poet. So, a biscop is a substitute scop, our Scop is Jesus Christ, the bishops are not to compose their own verses, they are to sing the song that our Head sang, a song of liberation and of resurrection from the cause du jour that priests have put into the mouth of God since before the invention of writing…
“God commands you to fight a war with THOSE PEOPLE!”
By the late 19th/early 20th century, this no longer really worked in the main. So, the schtick switches to
“God commands you to fight a war against INJUSTICE! Against CLIMATE CHANGE!”
And, of course, one cannot fight against abstract nouns, one can only fight against people, buildings, concretions.
The Church is the eternal body of Christ, none of our authority depends on priests in orders: GOD has made us “kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.” (Rev. 1:6)
But if you had a little puppy that was always kicking and biting, maybe you’d put it in a collar to check it…