{"id":4493,"date":"2009-06-03T00:06:52","date_gmt":"2009-06-03T04:06:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/anglicansamizdat.wordpress.com\/?p=4493"},"modified":"2009-06-03T00:06:52","modified_gmt":"2009-06-03T04:06:52","slug":"michael-ingham-just-doesnt-get-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/michael-ingham-just-doesnt-get-it\/","title":{"rendered":"Michael Ingham just doesn\u2019t get it"},"content":{"rendered":"

Some more interesting comments<\/a> from Michael Ingham in court yesterday:<\/p>\n

Turning to Bishop Ingham\u2019s insistence that no one is being asked to leave any parish except priests who are still in place after having relinquished the bishop\u2019s license, Cowper asked how\u2014not from a legal but \u201ca human point of view\u201d\u2014the bishop could expect members of the dissident parishes to remain in the diocese if they fail to win the lawsuit?<\/p>\n

\u201cIt\u2019s not likely they will stay, is it?\u201d the lawyer asked.<\/p>\n

\u201cI\u2019m not convinced of that,\u201d replied Bishop Ingham. \u201cOne should never underestimate the attachment of Anglicans to their buildings.\u201d The reply elicited groans from some in the court supporting the dissident congregations.<\/p>\n

The bishop went on to suggest that some people will want to remain where they have been baptized, married, or where relatives are buried. He said it was his understanding that members of dissident congregations had been told by their leaders they could have the Anglican Church of Canada and take their buildings with them. However, he admitted he had not been at any of the meetings of these congregations where these matters were discussed.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Ingham\u2019s belief that ANiC parishioners would return to the ACoC just to keep their buildings can only mean:<\/p>\n

Ingham hasn\u2019t read Proverbs 26:11<\/a> recently;
\nHe \u00a0is judging Christians by his own \u2013 rather dim – moral lights;
\nIt hasn\u2019t occurred to Ingham that for some people, principle is more important than a building;
\nHe radically underestimates the level of disagreement he is facing both in Canada and world-wide;
\nHe thinks ANiC leaders have lied to their parishioners;
\nHe has completely lost touch with reality and just doesn\u2019t get it.<\/p>\n

Perhaps all of the above.<\/p>\n

The Diocese of Niagara’s bishop, Michael Bird seemed to suffer from a similar delusion: he invited ANiC parishioners to return<\/a> (well, except for me<\/a>). Not much came of it, though: the diocese is occupying ANiC parish buildings on Sunday mornings, but there are no congregations. Even one of their own priests declared in a flash of uncharacteristic insight that the Diocese of Niagara parishes are not viable<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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