{"id":25489,"date":"2017-11-10T21:10:19","date_gmt":"2017-11-11T02:10:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/?p=25489"},"modified":"2017-11-10T21:10:19","modified_gmt":"2017-11-11T02:10:19","slug":"fred-hiltz-wonders-what-st-paul-would-make-of-the-anglican-church-of-canada","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/fred-hiltz-wonders-what-st-paul-would-make-of-the-anglican-church-of-canada\/","title":{"rendered":"Fred Hiltz wonders what St. Paul would make of the Anglican Church of Canada"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Wondering what St. Paul would think of a church considering marrying people of the same sex is akin to pondering whether Karl Marx would approve of Walmart. Any Christian whose thought processes are still anchored in the reality our familiar old four-dimensional space-time continuum knows the answer. It is the one thing Paul and Marx would have in common: the strength of their respective loathing for same-sex activity and Walmart.<\/p>\n<p>Yet, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.anglicanjournal.com\/articles\/now-ever-church-needs-know-purpose-hiltz-tells-cogs\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a> we have Fred Hiltz seriously \u2013 at least, I <em>assume<\/em> this article is not an elaborate exercise in exploring the outer limits of poor taste in Anglican jokes, it\u2019s sometimes difficult to tell \u2013 asking exactly that:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright  wp-image-25490\" src=\"https:\/\/anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/fh-300x201.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"196\" height=\"134\" \/>Hiltz made the comment in an address that began and ended by wondering what St. Paul might think of the church, what advice he might give it and how he might pray for it.<\/p>\n<p>On the church\u2019s deliberation over changing its marriage canon to allow same-sex marriage, for example, Paul might remind it of his counsel to the Ephesians to be \u201chumble and gentle and patient with one another, bearing with one another in love, making every effort to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace (<em>Ephesians<\/em> 4:2-3),\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>In an interview with the <em>Anglican Journal<\/em>, Hiltz said it was partly the idea of the importance of good leadership in the church at this point in its history that had prompted him to imagine what the apostle might think if he were to look at it \u201cwith a penetrating eye.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>[\u2026..]<\/p>\n<p>Hiltz concluded his address by speculating that St. Paul might pray for the Canadian church as he prayed for the Ephesians, \u201cthat we understand the incredible greatness of God\u2019s power\u2014that we might have power to comprehend how wide, and how long, and how high and how deep is God\u2019s love for us in Christ; that we be filled with that knowledge and in and through it live our lives and do the work to which God calls us.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Wondering what St. Paul would think of a church considering marrying people of the same sex is akin to pondering whether Karl Marx would approve of Walmart. 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