{"id":23799,"date":"2016-02-19T23:12:10","date_gmt":"2016-02-20T04:12:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/?p=23799"},"modified":"2016-02-19T23:13:38","modified_gmt":"2016-02-20T04:13:38","slug":"fred-hiltz-personally-agrees-with-same-sex-marriage","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/fred-hiltz-personally-agrees-with-same-sex-marriage\/","title":{"rendered":"Fred Hiltz personally agrees with same-sex marriage"},"content":{"rendered":"

The following article<\/a> is a summary of what transpired during a question and answer session following the recent Queer Eucharist that Hiltz presided at.<\/p>\n

The whole thing is worth a read because it illustrates well the morally chaotic universe the Anglican Church of Canada inhabits. A universe where a Primate\u2019s personal view of same-sex marriage is at odds with the religion he is supposed to represent, where telling someone homosexual activity is wrong amounts to abuse, where the main purpose of the church appears to be not only to affirm<\/em> whatever its members do no matter what but to provide them a safe space<\/em> in which to do it.<\/p>\n

From the attendees at the session, it is once again apparent that ACoC clergy promote gay marriage so strenuously because so many of them are, themselves, married to a person of the same sex.<\/p>\n

I do see a bright future ahead for the Anglican Church of Canada, though: not so much as a church but as a gay dating agency for unattached clergy.<\/p>\n

\u201cAll of us belong to God,\u201d said Canon Douglas Graydon to Archbishop Fred Hiltz, primate of the Anglican Church of Canada, at a gathering held to discuss same-sex marriage in the Canadian church. \u201cThe question is whether we belong to the church.\u201d<\/p>\n

It was a question many LGBTQ Anglicans brought forward in a question and answer session that took place after a talk Hiltz gave following the \u201cqueer Eucharist\u201d service hosted monthly at the Anglican Church of St. John\u2019s West Toronto.<\/p>\n

Passions ran high in the hour-long conversation, moderated by Graydon, an associate priest at St. John\u2019s who is in a same-sex marriage. The event saw about 150 people\u2014including several LGBTQ clergy from the diocese of Toronto\u2014come forward to share stories of pain and discrimination, and to call on the church to honour their struggle and their equality.<\/p>\n

\u201cWhat I want from our bishops, and from our primate, is the kind of language that restores hope, that will allow a 17-year-old thinking that suicide is maybe better, to say, \u2018No\u2014no, there is hope,\u2019\u201d said the Rev. Alison Kemper (deacon), a professor at Ryerson University. \u201cWe are who we are, and if the Anglican church chooses to deny us, we will get married, and we will have careers and we will have churches. What you need to do is claim your authenticity as our leader.\u201d<\/p>\n

Her thoughts were seconded by her wife, the Rev. Joyce Barnett, incumbent at St. Matthias, Bellwoods, who stressed the importance of publicly calling out homophobia and exclusion.<\/p>\n

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The most pointed question, however, came at the end of the evening, when a young woman named Jessica Davis-Sydor asked Hiltz about his personal views on the issue.<\/p>\n

\u201cI never actually heard you come out and say that you supported, that you support what is going on, that you are fighting to try and get same-sex marriage in the church,\u201d she said. \u201cDo you fully support it, deep down, what is happening?\u201d<\/p>\n

Hiltz responded by saying that while he personally supports same-sex marriage in the Anglican church, his position as president of General Synod places limitations on what he can or cannot say as a representative of the Canadian church.<\/p>\n

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