{"id":22187,"date":"2014-10-24T15:45:28","date_gmt":"2014-10-24T19:45:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/?p=22187"},"modified":"2014-10-24T17:23:31","modified_gmt":"2014-10-24T21:23:31","slug":"canadian-primate-says-2018-lambeth-unlikely","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/canadian-primate-says-2018-lambeth-unlikely\/","title":{"rendered":"Canadian Primate says 2018 Lambeth unlikely"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Justin Welby doesn\u2019t want to hold another Lambeth conference only to discover a large number of bishops absenting themselves because they are upset with the presence of the Anglican Church of Canada and TEC; both provinces have wandered away from received Christian truth according to Primates from the Global South. As a result, Justin Welby is meeting with the Primates, ostensibly to listen to their concerns, and, no doubt, to try and convince them to show up.<\/p>\n<p>Fred Hiltz thinks this is \u201cokay\u201d; anyone adept at reading between the lines will notice a concealed &#8220;just&#8221; in front of the &#8220;okay&#8221;. Hiltz isn\u2019t very happy about it: it isn\u2019t \u201cokay\u201d at all. The reason is simple enough: the Global South Primates have little use for the obfuscating tactics of Western Anglicanism: Indabas, the listening process, holy listening, facilitated conversations and other such claptrap. They will tell Welby exactly what they think of TEC\u2019s and the ACoC\u2019s elevation of homo-erotic gratification to the status of <em>holy\u00a0 &#8211; <\/em>and it won\u2019t be pretty.<\/p>\n<p>Reading what Hiltz <a href=\"http:\/\/www.anglicanjournal.com\/articles\/primate-says-2018-lambeth-unlikely\" target=\"_blank\">said<\/a> gives the impression that Welby and Hiltz are <em>simpatico <\/em>\u2013 I hesitate to imply that Welby is in the pocket of the North American Primates. The Global South and Hiltz are, of course, antipathetic, if not downright mutually hostile.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Hiltz said that sort of consultation is \u201cokay,\u201d but noted that it is a change from the way the meeting has been called in the past. \u201cHe may want to style it so that it is the Archbishop of Canterbury in consultation with and support of the primates, but historically it is the Archbishop that convenes a Lambeth Conference, and then people decide whether they will come or not, including some primates.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Justin Welby doesn\u2019t want to hold another Lambeth conference only to discover a large number of bishops absenting themselves because they are upset with the presence of the Anglican Church of Canada and TEC; both provinces have wandered away from &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/canadian-primate-says-2018-lambeth-unlikely\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"iawp_total_views":31,"footnotes":""},"categories":[150],"tags":[2186,991,1250],"class_list":["post-22187","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-fred-hiltz","tag-justin-welby","tag-lambeth","tag-primate-fred-hiltz"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22187","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=22187"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22187\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=22187"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=22187"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=22187"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}