{"id":21630,"date":"2014-06-16T14:28:28","date_gmt":"2014-06-16T18:28:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/?p=21630"},"modified":"2015-03-10T19:17:12","modified_gmt":"2015-03-10T23:17:12","slug":"an-interview-with-bishop-don-harvey","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/an-interview-with-bishop-don-harvey\/","title":{"rendered":"An interview with Bishop Don Harvey"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The whole thing is well worth reading <a href=\"http:\/\/www.anglicannetwork.ca\/pdf\/COOL_The_Anchor_interview_with_BishopDon_0514.pdf\" target=\"_self\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>On reforming the ACoC from within; or, as Malcolm Muggeridge used to like saying, <em>playing hymns in the whorehouse<\/em>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Then the Essentials Movement itself split, mainly because there were those who wanted to reform the Anglican Church of Canada from within. This was an interesting concept, as I don\u2019t think any one of us would have left if we had thought there was the slightest possibility of reform happening. We saw things getting worse there instead of better.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>On ANiC\u2019s growth:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>at the start of that first Synod, we were 2 bishops, 2 priests, 2 deacons and 2 parishes. At least we were being very biblical, being \u201csent out by 2\u2019s!\u201d Five years later, we were 4 active bishops, 2 retired bishops (1 retired and 1 working as a church planter), well over 150 clergy members, 72 parishes, church plants and forming congregations, and an average Sunday attendance over 3900.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>On Wycliffe College:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>At one time here in Canada we could say Wycliffe College was ideal for them. It is not the case anymore. The college doesn\u2019t like us. Our students are treated as second class students. I know these are explosive words, but I am willing to stand by them, because I have seen the evidence of them. I have been told that our students would be treated like anybody else. Their usual practice was that sometime during the course of the 2 or 3 years that a student was there, they would have their bishop come and spend a day with them, show them around, meet the staff, and what not. Usually that was planned for a day when there was Chapel with a sermon and the bishop would be invited to preach.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat being the case,\u201d I said, \u201cdoes that mean that Bishop Charlie or I, one of us, would be given a chance to preach here, to walk in procession at your convocation?\u201d And their reply was &#8230;? \u201cNo, I\u2019m sorry. You couldn\u2019t.\u201d This from the college supposed to be favourable to us. If that is our friend, spare me from our enemies. Believe me, that is very sad. It\u2019s sad because Wycliffe College was built on the very premises that ANIC exists on.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Wycliffe is in the ACoC\u2019s pocket, a fact that was very apparent when, in 2010, I interviewed George Sumner, Wycliffe\u2019s principal <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aecblog.net\/acoc-general-synod-2010\/chatting-with-the-rev-canon-dr-george-r-sumner-principal-wycliffe-college-part-1\/\" target=\"_self\">here<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aecblog.net\/acoc-general-synod-2010\/chatting-with-the-rev-canon-dr-george-r-sumner-principal-wycliffe-college-part-2\/\" target=\"_self\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aecblog.net\/acoc-general-synod-2010\/chatting-with-the-rev-canon-dr-george-r-sumner-principal-wycliffe-college-part-3\/\" target=\"_self\">here<\/a>. There was a lot of dancing.<\/p>\n<p>On Bishop Malcolm Harding:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Here\u2019s an example of what happened to Bishop Malcolm Harding. Usually when you complete your term as Diocesan Bishop, your picture is hung on the cathedral wall with all your predecessors and the dates underneath. After he came with us, his photograph was taken down from the wall at the Cathedral in Brandon. His name was taken away. It simply said, \u201cThe person who held the position of 8<sup>th<\/sup> Bishop of Brandon is no longer a member of the church\u201d or something like that.<\/p>\n<p>How could anyone try to rewrite history that way? The fact was that between the year this and the year that, he was the 8<sup>th<\/sup> Bishop of Brandon. And his picture should still be there.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>On abortion:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I still haven\u2019t heard a definitive stand from the Anglican Church of Canada over abortion. There have been all kinds of words about it, but to come out and say, it is taking another human\u2019s life, they don\u2019t say it. So this phrase \u2018wishy-washy\u2019 has been said to me about them many times. We want to know where we stand and where our church stands, and we want be proud of where our church stands. I used to say in the early days, \u201cI\u2019m praying for the time when I can go across this country and say I\u2019m Anglican without having to apologize for it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Incidentally, there are Anglicans in Canada (including some in the ACoC) standing against abortion; see <a href=\"http:\/\/www.anglicansforlife.org\/content\/welcome-anglicans-life-canada\" target=\"_self\">Anglicans for Life Canada<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The whole thing is well worth reading here. On reforming the ACoC from within; or, as Malcolm Muggeridge used to like saying, playing hymns in the whorehouse: Then the Essentials Movement itself split, mainly because there were those who wanted &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/an-interview-with-bishop-don-harvey\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"iawp_total_views":2,"footnotes":""},"categories":[21],"tags":[1818,402,2037,1819],"class_list":["post-21630","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-anic","tag-anglican-church","tag-anglican-network-in-canada","tag-anic","tag-bishop-don-harvey"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21630","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=21630"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21630\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=21630"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=21630"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=21630"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}