{"id":18211,"date":"2012-12-13T15:03:53","date_gmt":"2012-12-13T20:03:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/?p=18211"},"modified":"2012-12-13T15:03:53","modified_gmt":"2012-12-13T20:03:53","slug":"fred-hiltz-meets-with-justin-welby-and-warns-him-about-acna","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/fred-hiltz-meets-with-justin-welby-and-warns-him-about-acna\/","title":{"rendered":"Fred Hiltz meets with Justin Welby and warns him about ACNA"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-18212\" alt=\"Hiltz-Welby\" src=\"https:\/\/anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/12\/Hiltz-Welby.png\" width=\"240\" height=\"186\" \/>One of Fred Hiltz\u2019s recurring nightmares is that Canterbury recognises ANCA and ANiC, making ACNA an official North American Anglican province with ANiC as one of its dioceses. In order to forestall this calamity, Hiltz has taken his \u201congoing concern\u201d to Justin Welby.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s worth noting that a contributing factor to the judge\u2019s decision to award the ANiC church buildings to the Diocese of New Westminster was that they are held in trust for \u201cAnglican worship\u201d. By the judge&#8217;s reasoning, since the ACoC is the only recognised Anglican Church in Canada, Anglican worship and doctrine, no matter how perversely bizarre, is set by it and no-one else.<\/p>\n<p>If ACNA is recognised by Canterbury, it would mean that the beloved nonsense emanating from Hiltz\u2019s beloved church would no longer be the sole official measure of Canadian Anglicanism.<\/p>\n<p>Welby, apparently, is \u201cvery appreciative\u201d of ACoC contributions to the Anglican communion. Things like the pioneering work on suing Christians, ejecting them from their buildings, inhibiting world famous theologians such as J. I. Packer, filling the ranks of its clergy with partnered homosexuals and performing the Vagina Monologues in a cathedral.<\/p>\n<p>There aren\u2019t many Anglican Provinces that can make those claims.<\/p>\n<p>From <a href=\"http:\/\/www.anglicanjournal.com\/nc\/other\/news-items\/article\/uk-visit-leaves-hiltz-optimistic-about-church-leadership-11358.html\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The leader of the Anglican Church of Canada has emerged from his Dec. 6 meeting with the Archbishop of Canterbury-elect, Justin Welby, feeling \u201cvery optimistic about his leadership.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Archbishop Fred Hitz, primate of the Anglican Church of Canada, noted Welby\u2019s \u201cextensive ministry of reconciliation\u201d and told the Journal that, \u201cI get is a sense that he wants to be personally pro-active to build relations.<\/p>\n<p>[\u2026.]<\/p>\n<p>During his meeting with Welby, Hiltz said he mentioned ongoing concern about efforts by the Anglican Church in North America (ACNA) to be recognized by the Church of England. Composed of Anglicans who have left the Anglican Church of Canada and The Episcopal Church in the U.S., ACNA describes itself as \u201can emerging Province in the global Anglican Communion.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Hiltz said he requested that if bodies of the Church of England are to meet with representatives of ACNA, \u201cin fairness, they should also meet with us to get a better picture.\u201d Welby was \u201cvery appreciative\u201d of the place of the Anglican Church of Canada in the Communion and the contributions it has been able to make, added Hiltz.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of Fred Hiltz\u2019s recurring nightmares is that Canterbury recognises ANCA and ANiC, making ACNA an official North American Anglican province with ANiC as one of its dioceses. In order to forestall this calamity, Hiltz has taken his \u201congoing concern\u201d &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/fred-hiltz-meets-with-justin-welby-and-warns-him-about-acna\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"iawp_total_views":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[16],"tags":[2032,2145,2186],"class_list":["post-18211","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-anglican-church-of-canada","tag-anglican-church-of-canada","tag-fred-hiltz","tag-justin-welby"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18211","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=18211"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18211\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=18211"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=18211"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=18211"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}