{"id":16072,"date":"2012-03-29T00:46:16","date_gmt":"2012-03-29T04:46:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/?p=16072"},"modified":"2012-03-29T00:46:16","modified_gmt":"2012-03-29T04:46:16","slug":"anglicans-in-the-bar","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/anglicans-in-the-bar\/","title":{"rendered":"Anglicans in the bar"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Sorry, I meant indaba. Rowan Williams introduced indaba groups into Lambeth 2008. Indaba purports to be \u201ca gathering for purposeful discussion\u201d. What it is when practised by Anglicans is a gathering aimed at building <em>relationships,<\/em> particularly with those with whom one disagrees. In order to do this, you have, at all costs, to <em>avoid<\/em> \u201cpurposeful discussion\u201d for fear of damaging the relationship.<\/p>\n<p>Consequently, at Lambeth 2008, no-one really argued, nothing was decided and nothing was achieved. Moreover, the relationships that emerged were the emasculated affectations that you would expect from a gathering of people who lack the conviction that if a proposition is true, its negation must be false.<\/p>\n<p>The Diocese of Toronto, undeterred by the fact that they don\u2019t work, is still <a href=\"http:\/\/www.toronto.anglican.ca\/2012\/03\/28\/indaba-process-leads-to-deeper-understanding-for-local-anglicans\/\" target=\"_blank\">using indaba groups<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Anglicans from the Diocese of Toronto who participated in the Anglican Communion\u2019s one-year indaba process believe it can have a transforming effect upon the church if it is used more broadly.<\/p>\n<p>[\u2026.]<\/p>\n<p>The Diocese of Toronto participated with Jamaica and Hong Kong in three eight-day meetings that took place in Toronto in May, 2011, Hong Kong last September and Jamaica this February. There were three topics for discussion: social justice and advocacy, youth alienation and homosexuality. An important part of the meetings was immersion in the life of the host diocese, so that participants could understand the context for decision-making.<\/p>\n<p>[\u2026.]<\/p>\n<p>Mr. Graves notes that it\u2019s tempting when people think differently from the way we do to let them go their own way. When he has thoughts like that, he looks at a photograph in his office that was taken of all the indaba participants in Hong Kong.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe easy answer is to have a divorce,\u201d he says. \u201cBut when you\u2019ve built relationships with people, that\u2019s not so easy. I look at those people and ask, \u2018Can I do without that person in my life?\u2019 and I don\u2019t believe I can.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sorry, I meant indaba. Rowan Williams introduced indaba groups into Lambeth 2008. Indaba purports to be \u201ca gathering for purposeful discussion\u201d. What it is when practised by Anglicans is a gathering aimed at building relationships, particularly with those with whom &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/anglicans-in-the-bar\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"iawp_total_views":3,"footnotes":""},"categories":[114],"tags":[2114,888],"class_list":["post-16072","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-diocese-of-toronto","tag-diocese-of-toronto","tag-indaba"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16072","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=16072"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16072\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=16072"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=16072"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.anglicansamizdat.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=16072"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}